ISUPK Hebrew Israelites Exposed (Salvation Debate Review)

I recently watched a debate between ISUPK Hebrew Israelites, and a Christian.

ISUPK vs Christian

ISUPK Are Confident But Confused

Have you ever watched a debate between a Christian and a Hebrew Israelite, and once the Hebrew Israelite says something, the chat goes crazy, as if the Christian has been destroyed and has no hope? And it’s made you question whether Hebrew Israelites are teaching the truth & Christians are just manipulating the Bible, as we’re accused of?

If you’ve felt like that before, I want to show you why you shouldn’t react like that, just based on comments from the crowd or the confidence of the communicator. I was recently watching this debate about “what is salvation and who is it for?” It was between a Christian Pastor named Mike Holloway, and a captain in one of the Hebrew Israelite camps called ISUPK. ISUPK stands for “Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge” if you are wondering. So let’s get into it.

A Strong Argument That Debunks ISUPK Doctrine

The pastor brings up a clear passage which totally destroys the Hebrew Israelite teaching that salvation is only for Israel.

Let’s read on in Second Chronicles Chapter number six. check it out: “Moreover, concerning a foreigner, watch this. Who is not of your people Israel

since I know that a lot of you try to make strangers Israel, the foreigners, Israel, and everybody else, Israel. No.

Concerning a foreigner who is not of your people Israel but has come from a far country for the sake of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm when they come,

eww, check this out,

when they come and pray.

Where

in this temple

now if you know anything about the temple, you know, the temple was the place where the Ark of the Covenant was, where the habitation of God and the Shekinah Glory would fill the place. Jesus said that my Father’s house shall be the house of prayer. It is the house of all nations. And guess what? When these foreigners come in this temple, right?

Then hear heaven from heaven in your dwelling place. It says Do according to all, for which the foreigner calls you to do, that all peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you as do your people Israel.”

Notice, even in the Old Testament, there was equality there, that God wanted to bring the nations here to know Him the same way Israel knows him.

The passage is clear, these are not Israelites in a Gentile state of mind as Hebrew Israelites like to say because they’re Israelites already. And secondly, Solomon is praying in that passage that when they come and pray because of God’s majesty, not because they just realized they were Israelites.

This is why Solomon is saying strangers, not of Israel, in verse 32 in 2nd Chronicles 6. Solomon understood God’s plan was to have Israelites and non-Israelites from all over the world who would serve Him. But let’s look at one more quick example before we hear what the captain has to say to address this.

Watch this Joshua chapter number eight, verse thirty-four:

“And afterward, he read all the words of the law, the blessings and the curses, according to all that is written in the book of the law. Verse thirty-five, there was not a word of all that Moses had commanded, with which Joshua did not read before the Assembly of Israel, with the women, the little ones, and the strangers who were living among them.”

These two passages are just a taste of scripture which cut through ISUPK false doctrine. But before I show you the Captain’s response, what do you think people were saying in the live chat while the Pastor was quoting these verses and explaining them?

Kevin says,

“What’s wrong with this guy? He sounds like a salesperson.”

William says,

“He’s freestyling lol,

Literally while reading scripture.

Vaniah repeatedly says,

“Read scripture, read scripture,”

again, literally while reading scripture. A walk’n Testimony says,

“I hear no scripture,”

and again, while literally reading scripture. Vaniah comments again and says,

“No scripture, you can’t make this up.”

But hopefully, you’re getting the point here.

The ISPUK Self-Defeating Response

But notice the response from the Hebrew Israelite captain in his rebuttal round, and then I’ll show you how this argumentation buries his Israelite only salvation doctrine if he’s consistent.

So now when you look at that word, that word, because I had to make sure I had it right. So when you look at that word, that word is H1616 [Ger]. That stranger is clearly talking about the children of Israel, but it’s using the word stranger.

His first line of defence is this Hebrew word used in Joshua 8:35 that Pastor Mike quoted is used at times for Israelites. I’d love to deal with that more, but something else he said is much more important for this article, but all I’ll say for now is…

The argument the Bible isn’t necessarily speaking about Non-Israelites makes no sense in Joshua 8 because these strangers, who are part of Israel at this point, who are reading the law and are living as part of the nation, would not be Israelites in a gentile state of mind or Israelites moving from one place to another place because the Israelites are just entering the promised land at this point as one group and have not been scattered anywhere.

But what he said shortly after is what truly buries Israelite only salvation doctrine.

The Captain Continues

“If I go to Exodus 12 and 43, when it says no stranger [nekar] shall eat thereof. That stranger is different. And why is that saying that? Because, excuse me, one more.”

It would have been nice for him to end the point specifically for this passage, but it’s clear from the context he was trying to say…

In Exodus 12:43, this is speaking about a genuine Non-Israelite as they see it, but as debates go, he had to move on before time ran out.

But this is why I’ve been saying this sort of argumentation buries this false teaching. Let me show you two reasons why. But before I do this, what do you think people were saying in the live chat when he was saying this stuff?

Enci aga says,

headshots.

JoyWhite leaves four fire emojis.

RAM says,

Another cut.

Rhoda says,

BODYBAG!

and Rudy G leaves emojis of an ambulance speeding off.

I’m going to show you two reasons his argument about different Hebrew words, even by his standards, buries the false teaching.

I’ll show you from the passage itself, and then by another passage later in the Bible. First let’s look at the passage.

He quoted Exodus 12:43, as to say these are different gentiles. Notice he quoted this passage here in verse 43 of Exodus chapter 12 and says, because it says no strangers should have the Passover, this means the strangers can’t have the Passover. But notice what it says.

The next verses says,

but every man servant that is bought for money when you have circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof.

The point about who can have the Passover, as you can see clearly is about who is circumcised and who is not. And it becomes even clearer when you go down to, for example, verse 48.

And when a stranger shall sojourn with you and will keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised and then let him come near and keep it, and he shall be as one that is born in the land for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Circumcision is the clear problem we see in this passage repeatedly.

ISUPK Cannot Use This Argument Consistently

I want to show you a passage now with the same Hebrew word (Nekar) that the captain brought up, which shows salvation is for gentiles as well as not just Israelites or scattered Israelites etc. Let me walk you through this passage.

Notice what we see here in Isaiah 56.

Here it says,

Thus saith the Lord,

This is the Lord speaking.

Keep your judgment and do justice for my salvation is near to come and my righteousness is to be revealed.

So this is about salvation, as God says. Let’s continue. Notice what he says, though.

Blessed is the man that does this and the son of man who lays hold on it, that keeps the Sabbath from polluting and keeps his hand from doing any evil.

And it continues. Now, this is where you need to pay close attention to the next verse because it speaks about the stranger, the same Hebrew word (Nekar) that you heard the captain ask about earlier in Exodus 12:43. This was the reason why that stranger could not take part in the Passover, i.e., could not be saved, was because they were a Gentile.

This is the same word here. Let’s continue. God says,

and neither let the son of the stranger [Nekar] that hath joined himself to the Lord.

So you’re telling me, God, a stranger, The Word of God says, Can join himself to the Lord? Yes, that’s what it says.

Don’t let the stranger [Nekar] whose joined himself to The Lord speak, saying the Lord has utterly separated me from his people.

Why, Lord, when these Hebrew Israelites are saying so confidently that strangers cannot be part of God’s people, but somehow God, you are saying in your Word that the son of the stranger shouldn’t say that you have separated them from His people? He continues.

Neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

Why?

For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs that keep my Sabbaths, and choose that which pleases me and take hold of my covenant.

Notice God is saying here clearly that the eunuch can take hold of the covenant. Hebrew Israelites will have you believe that the covenant is only available to Israel. This is where we have to follow what God’s Word says over what man’s word says, but it gets better, and notice what He says in verse 5,

even unto them, Will, I give in my house and within my walls a place, and a name better than of sons and daughters.

Hebrew Israelites Cannot Handle This Passage Without Admitting The Implications

That’s got to cut up some Hebrew Israelites. God is saying He’s going to give these people in his house a name which is better than sons and daughters. Who are the sons and daughters? The natural Israelites.

It’s clear from the context of this passage (and of the whole scripture). But, let’s continue.

Why will he give them a name that’s better than sons and daughters?

I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.

He goes back to the strangers [Nekar]. What did He say in verse six?

Also the son of the stranger [Nekar] that joined themselves to the Lord right to serve Him and to love the name of the Lord and to be His servants. Everyone that keeps the Sabbath from polluting it and takes hold of my covenant.

So this is the second time in this passage we’ve seen that people who are not Israelites, God is saying can:

  • Take hold of the covenant.
  • Be partakers of the covenant.
  • Have names greater than sons and daughters.
  • Shouldn’t say that the Lord has stopped them from being His people.

Now let’s go down and read verse 7 to 8. Notice what it says.

Even them,

Right? The people He’s speaking about previously,

will I bring to my Holy Mountain and make them joyful in my house of prayer there burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on my altar.

So God is saying, I’m going to bring these eunuchs and sons of the strangers who are taking part of the covenant They’re going to be joyful in my house of prayer They’re not going to be in servitude, in slavery, etc., and their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be acceptable.

Why? God says,

for my house shall be called an house of Prayer for all people.

And verse eight is the key verse which is clear and unequivocal. if everything we covered so far in this chapter wasn’t enough. God goes out of His way, as if He knows thousands of years later your gonna have these false Hebrew Israelites talking about how Gentiles cannot be saved.

He goes out of His way to highlight this is not some Israelite who’s been scattered abroad. He says,

The Lord which gathers the outcasts of Israel

all those Israelites who’ve been scattered abroad, says,

yet will I, I gather to Him, beside those that are gathered unto Him

God’s Salvation Is For All Regardless of Hebrew Israelite Claims

Like it says in the Word, that the Lord is going to gather the Israelites in all these different places, there’s other people The Lord says.

The eunuchs, and the sons of the strangers. That same Gentile word [Nekar] the captain used previously, is who He’s going to gather and bring together in His house of prayer. It will be joyful, glorious, and we’ll all serve God together as one big happy family.

So this passage clearly shows that Eunuchs and Non-Israelites can be saved, can enjoy the covenant, and should not say the Lord has separated them from His people. And they can be among the people of God Because salvation is near, to all those who put their trust in Him.

Hopefully this article blessed you. And share this with anyone struggling with this, because the True Gospel matters. And feel free to read more, covering Hebrew Israelites attacking Christianity, atheists, Muslims or Rabbinic Judaism. God bless.

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He’s learning to serve the Christian community better and better each day through his teaching on the Bible (both theory and practical application for everyday life). Israel Ikhinmwin loves to share the truth of God’s Word and be an example for other Christians looking to develop your faith.

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